both for macroeconomic reasons, it's bad for the economy if you don't have spending power. and for fairness. because of wages you can't go to clinton. newt gingrich likes to win things. it has been a while since he has but it was at that point still >> in 2007 the democrats were in control of congress. the model was 1996 when you had a democratic president and big clinton. newt gingrich likes to win things. it has been a while since he has but it was at that point still on a roll. you had dick armey who was the majority leader who was dead set against it. but the republicans gave into reality for some of the republicans, but the sort of more traditional conservatives, they keep telling people to go to work. we don't want the 47%. how do you turn around and say yes, people should go to work but shouldn't make enough money to live on. this is a subset of the most interesting dynamic in the world today. as i said, will the meanies beat the crazies? >> we are routing for the meanies. overall, are there numbers where the poling becomes so overwhelming? i'm thinking about it on t